ISA
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ISA an acronym for Internal Security Act that is an act of the PAP garmen (which was inherited from the old British Administration). There is no other reason (under ISA) to justify {within normal reasons} for imprisonment of detainees under no proof or burden of evidence to give (as in a fair Court of Law in any democratic society) except the pleasure of the garmen. Slowly and surely they had to abolish it, since the rationale and any such reasons are getting more difficult to find especially after the British withdrawal (nearly forty years ago!)!
[edit] The original author who drafted the ISA said and wrote:
"Since I drafted the original act, the ISA has been tightened up and tightened up until now there's no provision for judicial review. Unfortunately, over the years the powers have been abused. Instead of locking up people suspected of organizing violence, which is the phrase used in the preamble of the ISA, it's been used to lock up political opponents, quite harmless people." [Asiaweek July 28, 1993](The person who drafted the ISA, Mr. Hickling:) ...
sources [[1]]..so?
Nowadays who are the real communists (??) who take away your land and homes and push you out of Singapore when you cannot afford to pay and pay? They’re no communists even in Communist China anymore. A Mainlander from the old country tells me it's a joke about communists there: there are no more! They're all transformed in their minds: they all aspire to be "filthy rich materialists"! It's the same everywhere as far as the human depraved heart is concerned, goto natural inclination.
Lately some (would-be) terrorists were still detained, but that is slowly re-considered in the lights of the unlawful atrocities committed by the American Bush administrations.
[edit] The London talks that failed, led by David Marshall(Chief Minister), Lim Chin Siong & Lee Kuan Yew
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The idea of retaining the power of internal security whilst granting self-government, Marshall accused the British, was like serving "Christmas pudding and arsenic sauce."
[edit] Why does the people in S'pore still fearful of the garmen abuse of the ISA ? see ISA
The longest time served detainee Chia Thye Poh remarked here >>>[[2]]
[edit] In the Past the garmen detained 107 person during Operation Coldstore, so they said they're a security threat to the national well being and so on, so now if I get arrested and detained "what would they said?" They will have excuses again, but it will be only lies or pop up excuses. ISA has been a flagrant violation of our human dignity and our basic freedom to live here in Singapore as a free people. Well, when they want me in detention, it can be any reason (whatever) include the one rule of the PAP- I am not their supporter nor I see eye to eye with any of them on most issues what’re not for the good nor necessary of our society. Making more slaves out of the poor is one of them on my list of fighting for what I believe is right, a God given task entrusted to many of us who are willing to stand for.
: Alien talk 06:28, 17 May 2007 (SGT)[edit] Since I am but a small fly, they can kill me like a fly, or cage in like a bird, and that day is a Day - u should fear too!
My liberty is never at at stake but yours always is..when PAP acts again with ISA on a little fly like me00:06, 17 May 2007 (SGT)
I'm born free and I can & ready to go home anytime..00:06, 17 May 2007 (SGT)
[edit] If I am afraid, I won't be here on Sgwiki: Alien talk 00:13, 17 May 2007 (SGT)
[edit] Rare interview with ISD director
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Note:ISD=Internal Security Department. Temasek Review:
Mr Yoong, you were the director of Internal Security Department from 1971 to 1974. Can you tell us how it came to be formed?
Yoong Siew Wah:
It was left to us by the British which was set up during the Emergency to counter the communist threat.
Temasek Review:
The ISA allowed for detention without trial. Do you think it is still necessary now?
Yoong Siew Wah:
Of course it is necessary for security purposes. In those days, Singapore was full of communists. You had to detain them immediately because if you had waited for a trial, all the witnesses would be silenced. There would be no test to prosecute them.
Temasek Review:
What about now? There are no more communists in Singapore.
Yoong Siew Wah:
Yeah, but there are still terrorists running around. Without the ISA and ISD, how are you going to deal with them?
Temasek Review:
But we can set up an anti-terrorist unit….
Yoong Siew Wah:
That’s not good enough….
Temasek Review:
During your stint as ISD Director, were Said Zahari, Chia Thye Poh and Dr Lim Hock Siew still under detention?
Yoong Siew Wah:
Yeah, they were still detained.
Temasek Review:
Why were they detained for so long? Did you try to obtain early release for them?
Yoong Siew Wah:
Well, the role of the ISD then was to rehabilitate them. As long they recanted their communist past, they would be released. These chaps were not as innocent as portrayed. They had links to the communists.
Temasek Review:
Who had the final say in their release?
Yoong Siew Wah:
For important detainees like Chia and Lim, we had to discuss with the Prime Minister who would decide if they should be released.
Temasek Review:
What about Operation Spectrum in 1988? Were there any grounds to detain the 22 Catholic workers in the first place?
Yoong Siew Wah:
I can’t comment on it as I was already retired then.
[edit] responses
By one whois
· Not_impressed on Fri, 16th Oct 2009 12:39 pm
Well there’s a surprise – the leopard cannot change his spots even at age 82, can he? Once a bully boy always a bully boy.
Give people like Yoong a vague, sweeping, all-encompassing law like the ISA and watch this Nazi step forward and go for your throat. Why? Simply because he can — by law. You’ve effectively handed him the power of life and death over you and your family. It would take a f***king saint to resist the primitive thrill of absolute control over one’s fellow man, just ask Pol Pot, Mao, Stalin, Lee, and every cursed tyrant who ever lived.
How come other far larger nations can manage without a law like the ISA and microscopic Singapore can’t, Yoong? Is the ISD so hopelessly useless? Until recently, the U.K suffered 30 years of merciless IRA bombing campaigns which made Singapore’s so-called Communist experience laughably pathetic by comparison. Today they still have the on-going Islamic terrorists to deal with, suicide bombers in London, but they have felt NO need to abrogate citizens’ civil rights.
The same goes for Spain, France and Greece who have had to endure far worse violence than Singapore has ever had to in peacetime. None of these nations saw the need for an ISA, so what’s wrong with your tiny little dysfunctional nation, Yoong? Could it be that…whisper it…the ISA has little to do with a communist/terrorist threat and everything to do with suppressing political dissent? Is it possible that such a Draconian law, one which civilised nations hesitate to introduce even under the most extreme provocation, is it possible that it’s a heaven-sent opportunity for an authoritarian government unable to win its argument by peaceful means to lock up all opposition and throw away the key?
[edit] that's really the issue: abolish ISA. it's should be done humpteen years ago
The PAP still has that Power over individual rights..they can detain anyone whois..against them..That's the reason Francis Seow is hiding and still running! So.. are many more who believe & talks about freedom and Rights. The PAP had done away with all our rights..leaving the whole society like cagey chickens...
[edit] Testimony of an editor of local Malay Paper[[4]]
[edit] Response to that testimony of another ex-Singaporean now in U.K [[5]]
All are born free
- Emancipation
- All are born equal
- All are destined to die
- Each and everyone is given a name
- Each and everbody has the right to choose
- All are accountable to one another
- That is basics to all human constitution
- But Some may claim
- All are born free, but some more freer than others
- All are born equal, but some more equal than others
- Each and everyone is given an ID plus a name or nickname name too @alias then U choose Ur a.k.a.
- Each and everyone has the right, some more right than others
- All are destined to die, but some are destined to live as if forever!
- All are accountable, but they want other to be given accounts
- This is basically what we do to our own constitution
