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Editing Talk:Yamashita gold.anyway treaure found and who can claim it back? That's the tricky part, and where is is that located? Asian tresures belonging to most (dead) people are not listed as there were need to have insurance cover! So..here is an article: found and lost forever?

1 Yamashita's treasures have been found and lost
2 Here 's a list of treasure Maps
3 Need a Guide to go around in Cebu, Phillippines?

[edit] Yamashita's treasures have been found and lost

Yamashita's Gold?? The name of the Japanese general who defeated the British in Malaya and Singapore during World War II has always been identified with secretly-buried hoards of gold bullion and treasures looted from South-East Asia.

For more than half a century, treasure hunters have been chasing the elusive bounty amassed by General Tomoyuki Yamashita, known as the Tiger of Malaya for his brilliant military tactics and victory over British forces. New information reveals that Gen. Yamashita was indeed involved in the movement of looted valuables to caves in mountains north of Manila in the frenetic last 10 months of the war. In a few cases, the Japanese engineers and prisoners of war working on the transfer were entombed with the riches. <br.

It is believed treasures worth US$100 billion (S$173 billion) were hidden by the Japanese in the Philippines alone. At today's value, that would be much, much more. Over time, the hidden treasures acquired the label, "Yamashita's gold". The Americans recovered many of the valuables after the war. But these treasures were only the tip of the iceberg of trillions of dollars in gold, gems, rare art and precious metals plundered during the Japanese occupation of Asia. The looting was a deliberate policy and not a random act of theft and violence by drunken soldiers, as claimed in disinformation spread by the US and Japan. Systematically, the Japanese stripped bare 12 Asian countries -- including Singapore, Malaya, China, Korea and the Philippines -- of valuables accumulated over thousands of years. The fresh disclosures appear in a just-released book, Gold Warriors, written by investigative journalist Sterling Seagrave and his wife Peggy. The revelations establish that:

» Expert teams with Japan's military emptied Asian treasuries, banks, factories, private homes, art galleries and pawn shops;

» The Japanese used Singapore, Penang and Kuala Lumpur as major centres for the collection and shipment of loot; Chinese-owned tin-mining factories in Malaya recast confiscated gold jewellery;

» The treasures in Asia were taken to Japan by sea and rail, with much going to the US;

» Together with treasure recovered from the Nazis, the US used the loot in a secret slush fund to fight the communists in the Cold War;

» The "black gold" gave the Americans virtually limitless unvouchered funds for covert operations, to bribe political leaders and manipulate elections in foreign countries to prevent them from falling into communists hands;

» The US wanted Japan to be its anti-communist bastion in Asia, so it allowed Tokyo to keep its share of the plunder;

» The US State Department and Justice Department have thwarted efforts by some of the 700,000 victims of the Pacific War -- surviving prisoners-of-war, slave labourers, rape camp survivors and civilian victims -- from claiming the loot as compensation.

The new information opens the door to class-action lawsuits demanding long-overdue reparations from Japan for all its victims. The meticulously researched accounts by the Seagraves, the best-selling authors of critically-acclaimed books, Lords of the Rim and The Soong Dynasty, are documentated in almost 100 pages of end-notes and two CDs containing thousands of scanned documents.

"Ninety per cent of what was shipped to Japan remains in Japan today, including tens of thousands of ancient Chinese scrolls looted from libraries and private collections and other art and patrimony that is essentially beyond price", Mr Seagrave told The Sunday Times.

So who were the victims? They were overseas Chinese tycoons, Malay royalty, Buddhist sects, drug lords, triads and ordinary citizens. Ancient tombs were also raided.

Said Mr Seagrave:

"We can't even put a ballpark figure on what was stolen from Singapore and Malaya, since this would include gold looted from banks and treasure of all kinds from individuals, temples. clan associations and the underworld."

[edit] Here 's a list of treasure Maps

• • HIDDEN TREASURE IN THE PHILIPPINES: Hunting for Yamashita’s war booty (GEOFF BOTTING - The Yomiuri Weekly) June 20, 2005 6:26 PM

Yomiuri Weekly (June 19) He was known as the “Tiger of Malaya.” A skilled commander in the Pacific War, Gen. Tomoyuki Yamashita masterminded the quick capture by the Imperial Army of Malaysia and Singapore against a much larger force of Allied soldiers. Toward the end of the war, Yamashita’s forces tried in vain to repel U.S. forces retaking the Philippines.

Tokyo Confidential surveys popular vernacular magazines — often “salacious, libelous and utterly unreliable” — to discover what the Japanese are “really thinking.” See also below:

Sparring with the women-only set By Michael Hoffman Spa! (June 7) Sleeping on the job pays dividends By Mark Schreiber Nikkei Trendy (July) Yet despite such an illustrious career as a battlefield commander, Yamashita’s name these days is most frequently connected to his purported “treasure” — a vast amount of gold, gems and currency looted from various Asian countries during the war. According to treasure hunters and a few investigative journalists, Yamashita ordered some of his soldiers to stash the loot in various places in the Philippines during the closing stages of the war.<br.

Yet 60 years and countless search attempts later, no one has managed to find even a scrap of it. That, however, has failed to dent the enthusiasm of legions of treasure hunters, including many from Japan, according to Yomiuri Weekly. Of the 200-odd hardcore treasure seekers from around the world who are based in the Philippines or regularly go there in search of Yamashita’s treasure, about 30-40 are Japanese nationals, reckons Mitsuhiro Yaeno, author of “Nihon no Maizokin 100 Hanashi (One Hundred Stories of Japan’s Buried Treasures).” Treasure hunters are, by nature, a secretive lot, and that’s the case with the Japanese intent on grabbing a piece of Yamashita’s loot. The magazine, however, does some digging of its own on the lives and activities of some of these adventurers. One, whom the magazine identifies only as “M,” had formerly searched for valuables left behind by the Tokugawa shogunate. “However, he got hold of some documents and maps of the Yamashita treasure. The prospects appeared good, so he went to live in the Philippines, where he has three trucks” as part of his search operation, says Akira Kittaka, the head of a Japan-based group of treasure hunters.

Others have given up conventional careers in Japan to devote their energy into tracking down the war-era loot. “K,” a native of Saitama Prefecture, once worked for a small trading company. Then one day his employer sent him on a business trip to the Philippines in 2003. After becoming fascinated by the tales of the famous booty while in the country, he decided to quit his job and relocate there, where he has been snooping around ever since. “T” once served in the Self-Defense Forces and worked as a Tokyo cab driver. He too quit his job several years ago to become a full-time seeker of Yamashita’s treasure.

He is apparently chasing a hot lead these days. “I have purchased some fresh information. However, it concerns an area that’s quite dangerous, as it’s under control of armed insurgents,” he wrote recently in a message to Yaeno. So what would happen should any of these people actually find any of Yamashita’s cache? Surely, since the Japanese looted it from other countries, wouldn’t the right thing be to give all that money, gold and gems back to their rightful owners? Such concerns, however, seem to be the last things on the minds of the treasure hunters.

[edit] Translated by The Japan Times

Read "HIDDEN TREASURE IN THE PHILIPPINES: Hunting for Yamashita’s war booty" Posted at 6:26 PM Comments:

[edit] RE: HIDDEN JAPANESE WW2 TREASURE (PHILIPPINES)

Our team have discovered and documented more than 100+ suspected Japanese WW2 treasure sites, thru more than 20 years of treasure hunting experience, extensive research, exploration and actual operation. Treasure sites varies from a few tons up to several hundred tons gold. We need partners to finance our treasure projects. For more info may contact: Gerry at gergio2004@yahoo.com, celfon: +639103216315 Posted by: gboy at March 13, 2006 12:14 PM

mr gerry, treasure hunting here in the philippines are in serious problems, you wan't to know why? because somebody down there are saying that they have the site, a good prospect and large deposits. but the real thing are they don't have the knowledge of how the treasure would be and what exactly the treasure will looks like? you know, i've been in this business for a long time ago but i didn't look back the previous years that general yarusawa kuranari told me, treasure's that the japanese behind are more difficult than what you think and letting somebody to dig that known sites, you must aware that storey of that hunting are along the way, think it twice, gerry. well, if you would like my comment on your coming projects, send me site orientation of the project showing the east side and north side including nearest markings like, stone, old trees, rivers and others,
best regards, jonathan you can reached me at jonathan_liscano@yahoo.com Posted by: jonathan at September 27, 2006 6:00 PM Jonathan,

Its unfortunate that you easily conclude and assumed as if we didn't know what we are talking regarding yamashita treasure sites. Did I memtioned that we have already more than 100 japs treasure sites and more than 20 years of treasure research...isn't that credible enough....doctorate degree needs only ten years research...and we have more than 20 years...isn't that enough? Or do we have to tell you that we have recovered 2 tons of gold and was confiscated by local politicians or our old folks was Pres. Marcos treasure partner and recovered a few thousand tons of gold from 1965-82....my old folk treasure share of few billion dollars was sequestered by PCGG and CIA/Gold cartel....or do i have to mentioned that one of my treasure partner was blindfolded and herded into treasure cave with 4 chambers full of gold? Please...never ever under estimate our Japs treasure knowledge until you have seen our 250 pages treasure files completre with 21 japs maps, pictures, rock markers...etc....ok?<br.

By the way, Did i mentioned that our treasure research...are more complete and comprehensive than author...Seagraves: Gold Warriors book?...ask seagraves assistant...he has seen my research.

Gboy Posted by: gboy at December 6, 2006 11:36 AM I know places,,,,,,,from jaro church,....to church in Cebu, bacolod,,and panay island...a golden ship has revealed itself to people in antique,,my lola said...... Posted by: ryan at May 19, 2007 12:24 AM The Tiger of Malaya was not Yamashita. The real "tiger" escaped to China after the war and went back to Japan in about 1956 to become a Senator and was later listed as missing Burma.

Looking for the treasure I came accros a carved rock. The rock (blue stone???) wasnot none in the area that I found it. How do I send you a photo of the rock??? Posted by: walker at June 11, 2007 8:19 PM Hi Gboy, Can I buy a book what you have please, i am really interested reading about that, since before when i am small boy, my grandfather is always telling me about those things, i just buy a book from seagreave but i have not read it yet, its on the way to my address, i am from Philippines, and i been in digging also of this famouse yamashita treasures, i got some signs like a triangular White stone with a hole in the middle, and a tooth of the shark in our location, you are correct it is really hard to dig, but its so adventure, i hope you will give me a reply thanks Gboy, my email is alex_aragon@yahoo.com

Its me, Alex. Posted by: tiger501a at June 25, 2007 3:14 AM hi, a friend of mine found a round shaped stone with an eliptical cross section with a star(five tips)engraved on it. This was found along with gun shells, boots and other ww2 military effects in samal island-davao and is believed to be of a japanese soldier or high ranking official.The stone looks like a sapphire or aquamarine.Can anybody give feedback on what is this?

thanks Posted by: dCk at July 11, 2007 11:05 PM i'd like to be part of some treasure hunting group..to take part in the treasure hunt..can somebody advice me how to join.i am an intelligent person with avery good IQ and i'm very good in solving puzzles and stuff like that. Posted by: kewl.harry at October 30, 2007 8:52 PM

G Boy, You are a complete idiot and total moron not worthy of comparing yourself to Sterling Seagrave. 100 sites and 20 years and all you have is time to constantly play with your computer. Maybe you should get a real job. Mark Posted by: MarkO'Brien at November 29, 2007 5:58 PM

Mark, I have read all Seagraves books re Yamashita treasures, His expertise is mostly on CIA or american/japanese involvement in yamashita treasure hunting.Meaning he is well research on YAM TREASURE DOCUMENTATION/PAPERWORKS....NOT ON ACTUAL TREASURE SITES ON THE FIELD. Why don't you ask Seagraves...How many treasure sites he had visited so far? Or How many treasure sites he was involve personally on the field? Seagraves is a good treasure researcher however his expertise is on "paperworks" Yam treasure research...our expertise/experience is on ACTUAL TREASURE SITES ON THE GROUND.

Ex: On his Gold Warriors book he wrote about "Many Monkey treasure site" bcoz of Ben valmores/Bob Curtis infos or narration. I doubt if he had gone to these places mentioned on his book...while our team actually have been to these places in Nueva Vizcaya. Meaning his expertise is on "paperworks" treasure research...while our team is on "actual site" treasure research....SAME YAM TREASURE RESEARCH...DIFFERENT FIELD OF EXPERTISE....INTIENDES??? Posted by: gboy at February 19, 2008 11:49 AM

Mark, If you think we are ignorant on our Yam treasure research...he,he,he...read first our treasure sites before you compare us with Seagraves... SUSPECTED JAPANESE WW2 TREASURE SITES (PHILIPPINES )

1.LUZON ISLAND (Estimated. treasure volume)
A. CAVE AND WATERFALLS TREASURE SITES
1) Dumagat Secret Treasure 1 (very large)
2) Dumagat Secret Treasure 1 (very large)
3) El Sombrero Treasure 1 (very large)
4) El Sombrero treasure 2 (very large)
5) Secrets of Digoyo (very large)
6) Mt. Billionaire (very large)
7) Gen. Tamaso Cache (very large)
8) Gen. Tanaka Treasure (very large)
9) Sinkhole Cave (very large)
10) PB Cave (very large)

11) Gen. Yakoko Treasure (large) 12) Secret Airstrip 1 (large) 13) Snake Cave Treasure (medium) 14) Padlock Cave (medium) 15) Caged Budha Cave (small) 16) 3 G. Budha Cave (small) 17) Underground Cave Temple (small) 18) 5 Lonely Tomb Cave (small) B. BURIED / LAND TREASURE SITES 19) Tokyo 2 Tunnel (very large) 20) Japs Jungle Base Camp (large) 21) Callao Secret (large) 22) School Secret Treasure (medium) 23) Prado’s Court (medium) 24) Springfield Tunnel (medium) 25) Japs Plane Hangar treasure (medium) 26) Cargo Truck Tunnel (medium) 27) Church Secret Treasure (medium) 28) Skull Tunnel Treasure (medium) 29) Masoc / Grandfather Treasure (medium) 30) Egg Cave Treasure (medium) 31) Zapote Tree Secret (small) 32) Mango Tree Secret (small) 33) Santolan Tree Secret (small) 34) Tamarind tree Secret (small) 35) Lamp Light Treasure 1 (small) 36) Lamp Light Treasure 2 (small) 37) Peroz Road Treasure (small) 38) Triangle Bridge Treasure (small) 39) Japs Flag Treasure 1 (small) 40) Japs Flag Treasure 2 (small) 41) Japs Execution Camp Treasure (small) 42) Mango Hill Treasure (small) 43) Japs Cargo Plane 1 (small) 44) Japs Cargo Plane 2 (small) 46) Eagle Rock Treasure (small) C. UNDERWATER TREASURE SITES 46) 2-Metal Box (small) 47) Underwater Golden Budha (small) 48) El Diablo Island Secret (small) 2. MINDANAO / VISAYAS ISLAND A. LAND TREASURE SITES 49) Seven General Treasure (very large) 50) Three Gen. Treasure of Tagurano (very large) 51) Gen. Yamashita Treasure at Mundo Hill (very large) 52) Gen. Yamashita Treasure at Panabo (large) 53) Gen. Sakura Treasure (large) 54) Gen. Toyogoshi Treasure (large) 55) Gen. Kutamura Treasure (large) 56) Gen. Teruya Treasure (large) 57) Gen. Yamada Treasure (large) 58) Gen. Murakami Treasure (large) 59) Adm. Nakone Treasure (large) 60) Adm. Igie Treasure (large) 61) Col. Oshihiro Hansawa Treasure (large) 62) Col. Yamaguchi Treasure (large) 63) Lt. Ohata Treasure (medium) 64) Secrets Of Carmen (small) 65) Secrets of Cuyo Island (small) 66) Secrets of Dalirig (small) 67) Secrets of Dagat K Dabaw (small) 68) Secrets of Lake Sebu (small) 69) Secrets of Lake Venado (small) 70) Secrets of Lipadas (small) 71) Secrets of Makilo Ranges (large) 72) Secrets of Mt. Apo (large) 73) Secrets of Namnam (small) 74) Secrets of Pangantucan (large) 75) Secrets of Raware (medium) 76) Secrets of Silae (small) 77) Secrets of Sinuda (small) 78) Secrets of Tamugan (medium) 79) Secrets of Upian 1 and 2 (medium) 80) Nubos Treasure (medium) 81) Takahashi Butai Treasure (very large) 82) Kashibaora / Tanaka Treasure (very large) 83) 10th Buntai Treasure (medium) 84) Horse Cave Treasure (small) 85) Crocodile Cave Treasure (medium) 86) Giant Lizard Cave Treasure (medium) 87) Madapo Hill Treasure (small) 88) Kiakol Treasure (small) 89) Todaya Treasure (medium) 90) Crown of Cambodia (medium) 91) Djakarta Tunnel (very large) 92) Medusa Tunnel (small) 93) Tunnel 9 (very large) 94) Lying Lady Mountain (medium) 95) Golden Budha of St. Francis (small) 96) 3 –Chained /Wired Tomb (small) 97) Lonely Tomb of Talomo (small) 98) Lonely Tomb of St. Ines (small) 99) Lonely Tomb of Luban (small) 100) Sea Tomb of Luban (small) 101) 15 lonely Tomb of Wao (medium) 102) Samurai Tomb (small) 103) Sinkhole Tomb and Box (small) 104) Mysterious Jungle Steel Crate (small) 105) Waterfalls of Block (small) 106) Foxhole of Umayam (small) 107) Swimming Horse of Kisawi (small) 108) Underground Horse of Mt. Magolo (medium) 109) Tabokno Falls treasure (small) 110) Gandara Secret (small) 111) St. Vincent Secret (small)

[edit] B. UNDERWATER TREASURE SITES

112) Siwa Maru,D Island Ship(very large) 113) Tikang Maru (large) 114) Sakima Maru (large) 115) Maru of the Orient 3 (large) 116) Capt. Kimura 6 ships (very large) 117) Mini Submarine (small) 118) Camouflage Submarine (medium) 119) Cliff wall Submarine (medium) 120) Underground Submarine base (large) 121) Runway Edge Sea Vault (small) 122) Daibatsu of Ginoog and Davao Gulf (large) Notes: 1) Treasure volume: small (1-10 tons), medium (20-50 tons), large (50-100 tons), very large (above 100 tons). Estimated volume of treasure may change. 2) These are the treasure leads and information we have accumulated thru more than 20 years of extensive treasure research, exploration, actual operation, interviews of Japs / Filipino veterans, maps, live pointers and natives.